OEM halogeen vervangen voor LED of Bi-Xenon Polo 6C

[Eduard]

@iichel Thanks, It's reassuring to know, as it seems a bit weird. Have you seen this before ? ( 6R outside and 6C inside )

@Madrigal, Thanks for sharing ( good to know there's someone with the same "issue" hehe ). Regarding the retrofit, I'm sure as hell I want to do it, I dream of Xenon headlights. Just asked if anybody knows anyone that did it before, to ask him for some instructions, parts and so on because I have a hard time with the wiring schematics, never really retrofitted any car before. iichel sent me some videos from to help me out understanding the diagrams, hopefully it will

You said you are waiting on auto levelling kit, where did you buy that for a 6C ? I found something on Kufatec for a 6R, do you think it fits ? The PN is 6R0 907 357 ( saw that for a Golf 6 it is 5Q0 907 357 ) so I figured searching for 6C0/6C1 907 357 but didn't find anything. Please let me know where you found them

@chucknorris Understood. So basically there's no reason to change the BCM with another unless I don't want the DRL to dim when using main or beam right ? If so, do you know a part number of the BCM I need in order for me to check out ( if I can find it for a good price, there's no reason not to change that as well ).

Big thanks for the help and the info you're sharing ... If there's any way I can help you guys ( I'm a web developer ), please let me know, I'll do my best

 

[iichel]

Yes I've seen it before. The bluemotion 1.0 tsi and bluemotion 1.4 tdi look a lot like a 6R Bluemotion, one of few exterior differences are the tail lights.

The 5q0 AFS module is ok. I'd suggest to go for the completely correct BCM, since this will allow you to do the correct coding of the headlights and thus give you the easiest retrofit.

A half-correct (so half incorrect!) bcm will eventually need great expertise and knowledge of the coding to make it work. We don't have that kind of expertise here on our forums, nor do we have it at uk-polos, not to mention Polo6RFreunde...

Get the 100% correct BCM. This gives you the best chance of a good retrofit. For coding and bcm changes, the Ross tech wiki and forum is a good place to start.

For wiring diagrams, a one-day subscription to ErWin will help you out. On the topic of reading wiring diagrams, check out the topic I linked you and the Ross tech videos. Practise, educate yourself and practise more.

And last but not least, share your experiences. Thanks.

 

[Eduard]

@iichel Yes sir, I'll do exactly that. Of course, I want to go with the 100% correct BCM but the question is, how do I know what part number to order.

Regarding the autoleveling + afs module, I also have the 6R0 module with sensor available to buy here at kufatec: https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/polo/polo-6r/auto-leveling-headlights-retrofit-vw-polo-6r ( don't be confused by the parts in the image, it's an old pic, you can see the correct part images here: https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/Volk...-Xenon-Headlights-LED-DTRL-Upgrade-VW-Polo-6R )

Question is, will it fit ? I think so, because the chassis of the car is still a 6R right ? And if so, aside the autolevelling kit from kufatec ( with the AFS module 6R0 907 357 ) and the new BCM, what other parts will be needed ? So far i've got:

- 2 x drl bixenon headlights
- washer system ( wirings, tank, washers )
- new front bumper ( to fit washers )
- autoleveling kit + afs module https://www.kufatec.de/shop/...adlights-retrofit-vw-polo-6r ( waiting on your opinion, so I can order it )
- 1 x New BCM ( waiting on part number from you guys, if you can help )
- 1 x HEX V2 ( enthusiast - 3-vin limited edition ) ( waiting to be delivered )
- 5 x TESA 25mmx5m tape

So I'll look into ErWin after I'm going through the RossTech videos to try and grasp the diagrams first

Thanks a lot!

 

[iichel]

6R0 AFS module will not work on polo 6c. 6R wiring should be ok for AFS.

6R wiring for bi-xenon should be ok too in terms of pin layout, but I'm not sure whether the correct terminal connectors are on them. Connect the extra 6 wires according to wiring schemes to the bcm and validate appropriate wiring of the front fog lights, in combination with cornering lights.

Bcm part number, can't help you with that, sorry

And you really don't have to tag me. As a moderator I'll read all messages posted anyway, regardless of whether I'm actually interested.

 

[Eduard]

Ok, sorry about the tagging then

Regarding the BCM, I should reach out for someone who has a 6C that came with Xenon / DRL, ask for his VIN and look for that particular BCM.
I bought these headlights thinking it was a 6R, now I start to realise there is no 6C out there with xenon ...

As for AFS / Autoleveling, I should get the 5Q0 AFS module ( from the golf 6, as you said that should work ) along the 6R wiring and sensors / mounting plates ?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I'll make it worth it in the end

 

[Madrigal]

Hi Eduard, seems like I have the wrong module as well for the headlight leveling. Got also the 6R0907357.
I bought all my parts from ebay, only the metal bracket to mount the sensor under the car I bought that at the VW dealership.

Bought the wiring here:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Polo-6R-A...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

All other parts, just search with the parts numbers on ebay.

 

[iichel]

golf 6

Golf 7. Yes I think it should work.

 

[Madrigal]

Will this work with the old sensor?
Or do I need to replace that one too?
Guess mounting bracket will be the same as the 6R. Or was this also changed during the facelift.

 

[Eduard]

@Madrigal could you post the part numbers for the sensor and the bracket ? I think they will fit given the chassis being the same with the 6R.

Need to order these two as well and I am mostly done with what needs bought.

iichel, don’t know if you’ve gone through my washer thread on uk-polos ( been teaching myself on the fly ).

I’ve ordere the wiring Madrigal posted since we know it is going to fit, and then I found this AFS module which comes from an Audi TT, do you think it will work? If so, then I can order it

 

[Madrigal]

Eduard, bought the same module as on your picture, at least same part number. Guess this one will work.

The sensor i bought was advertised as 6R0941273 for Polo 6R.
What should be the correct one, but this sensor is the 200Hz version, and what I was reading that the new module 5Q097357
Works with the 800Hz sensor. So a bit confusing. I know this sensor will work with the (older and wrong module 6R0907357 from the 6R)
So the main question is, will this sensor work with the module 5Q097357 needed in the 6C.
Or do you need a 800Hz sensor?

 

[iichel]

Check etka for the right part number of the sensor. I'm sure it's listed for the 6C, then you're sure it's the right one.

 

[Madrigal]

Installed the (new) BCM in the Polo, looks like it is working, but have to deal with the component protection now!
Need to get it unlocked for my car. Know I normally need to do this at the dealership, but they all have holiday season, and are fully booked.
First date is first of August! Then my holiday is over and I can not finish the retrofit in my time off. Anybody here who can help me out?

 

[chucknorris]

Only someone with dealer level tools can do this.
Is the BCM new or a secondhand unit?

 

[Madrigal]

Its secondhand from ebay. Will continue with the wiring for now, and see what it will do. guess I have to be patient.

 

[chucknorris]

Waarschijnlijk is het niet mogelijk om de componenten protectie er af te halen bij een dealer. Het systeem zal waarschijnlijk melden dat er een verkeerd component in de auto zit

 

[Madrigal]

Heb mijn LED verlichting werkende! Gewoon met mijn oude originele BCM (6C0937089A) die al in de auto zat.
Deze ondersteunt dus ook het aansturen van de LED koplampen. Het is een BCM PQ26 Hi4R versie.
Moet alleen nog de juiste lichthoogte regelaar ontvangen zodat ik dat ook verder kan installeren.
Dus dat werkt nog niet. Wat een verschil in licht LED VS halogeen. Ze zouden de halogeen lampen moeten verbieden,
zo'n slecht licht geven ze.

 

[Madrigal]

Kan iemand mij vertellen waar de automatische lichthoogte module precies zit? Ik weet dat dit ergens bij het handschoenen vak moet zijn.
Maar zie zelf niet waar ik de bevestigingsbeugel kan vastmaken om vervolgens de module eraan vast te klikken.

 

[Madrigal]

Vandaag mijn led verlichting met automatische hoogte regeling retrofit afgemaakt! ben super tevreden met het resultaat.
Was wel een flinke klus, vooral het gerommel aan de stekkers van de BCM op een onmogelijke plek.
Wie verzint nu om dat ding daar te plaatsen! Hoe dan ook, mijn speciale dank aan iichel, voor de gedetailleerde beschrijving van zijn Led ombouw op zijn 6R, heb heel wat info kunnen gebruiken hiervan! En natuurlijk alle mensen die me op weg hebben geholpen met advies.

 

[Dutchy]

Hello gents! Sorry for not being able to write in dutch, I'm using google translate to try and get a sense of everything here.

I've been guided here by iichel, in my attempt to try and get my Polo ( 6C or 6R -- can't really figure out )

@chucknorris Hei! Did you mean that all Polo 6C that have Start / Stop support about everything ( xenon in my case ) ? Would be great if you can clear it out.

@Madrigal That is exactly the BCM I have on my Polo ( it's a 1.4 TDI 55kw 75CP - Bluemotion ). Not sure if it is a 6R or 6C ... Outside it is exactly the same as Polo 6R ( without the small front skirts / rear bumper ) .. like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/VW_Polo_V_1.2_TDI_BlueMotion_Glacierblau.JPG and the interior looks like a 6C: http://carplace.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/VW-Polo-2014-interior.jpg

Autoscan link here: https://pastebin.com/HN6Vk5Be

Does anyone have any friends who have done it, or are interested in taking a look at it ? I will provide anything that's needed. I have made a more detailed thread in here: https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70102

6C indeed

Hello gents! Sorry for not being able to write in dutch, I'm using google translate to try and get a sense of everything here.

I've been guided here by iichel, in my attempt to try and get my Polo ( 6C or 6R -- can't really figure out )

@chucknorris Hei! Did you mean that all Polo 6C that have Start / Stop support about everything ( xenon in my case ) ? Would be great if you can clear it out.

@Madrigal That is exactly the BCM I have on my Polo ( it's a 1.4 TDI 55kw 75CP - Bluemotion ). Not sure if it is a 6R or 6C ... Outside it is exactly the same as Polo 6R ( without the small front skirts / rear bumper ) .. like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/VW_Polo_V_1.2_TDI_BlueMotion_Glacierblau.JPG and the interior looks like a 6C: http://carplace.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/VW-Polo-2014-interior.jpg

Autoscan link here: https://pastebin.com/HN6Vk5Be

Does anyone have any friends who have done it, or are interested in taking a look at it ? I will provide anything that's needed. I have made a more detailed thread in here: https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70102

*Bump* If your polo is from 2016 / 2017 and has the new TSI engine, it's probably the 6c, my car still has a plaquette with 6R on it, but it's still a 6c according to VW, the chassis is exactly the same, the difference is mainly under the hood.
It's been told by others here aswell, but just wanted to take away any doubts you might still have.

 

[Eduard]

@Madrigal that's great to hear! Would you mind letting me know if your 6R0941273 sensor worked with the 5Q0907357 module ?